tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post3248133289046527812..comments2024-03-28T03:19:12.867-04:00Comments on space1970: V (1983) or Not To V?Christopher Millshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15978811373546110421noreply@blogger.comBlogger35125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-58873050611412395702013-02-19T22:18:57.432-05:002013-02-19T22:18:57.432-05:00Yes, of course you should cover it! Miniseries, TV...Yes, of course you should cover it! Miniseries, TV series, whatever you like. I'm frankly stunned people care so much as to tell you what is and isn't appropriate for your blog. To them I'd say, start your own free blog, then!Jay Exonautshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11336829684749993354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-55790250420511206672013-02-18T04:04:31.378-05:002013-02-18T04:04:31.378-05:00Another vote for "yes" here. The marketi...Another vote for "yes" here. The marketing alone for both the miniseries and the sequel miniseries was incredible. It definitely fits in perfectly with the tone of what this blog is all about. I didn't get into the series itself so much, and I'm not sure why exactly - it just felt different. But the original miniseries and The Final Battle were both the apex of 80's sci-fi to me. After that, I feel like things started to take a nose dive. I consider "V" to fit in perfectly with shows like "Buck Rogers", "Battlestar Galactica", and so many other 70's classics.Marknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-30128223596848109072013-02-17T00:38:10.954-05:002013-02-17T00:38:10.954-05:00Yikes! I'm catching up on posts, so I'm a...Yikes! I'm catching up on posts, so I'm a little late to the game. The marketing for this had me frothing at the mouth by the time it aired. The lead-up had a lot of us kids terribly excited, and I remember talking to friends about it at school on Monday and anticipating the conclusion that evening. Plus I got to stay up later than normal on a school night, twice in a row! Sorry, got sidetracked; in answer to your question: Yes, please!Tonguechewerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13069873989386574381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-8458988447814238472013-02-14T15:31:46.332-05:002013-02-14T15:31:46.332-05:00I say YES. And agree with the majority here that ...I say YES. And agree with the majority here that it's a suitable cut-off point. A sunset if you will. :)Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04157952529413529997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-63699172055892921412013-02-14T02:52:30.140-05:002013-02-14T02:52:30.140-05:00I like the idea of a spin off "Space 1980&quo...I like the idea of a spin off "Space 1980" site. That would be great.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-84688272717338230742013-02-13T11:14:09.393-05:002013-02-13T11:14:09.393-05:00Definitely include "V" and it's spin...Definitely include "V" and it's spin-offs. I don't think you should be limited to just the 1970s. I think of your blog content more from the perspective of "sci-fi fans who were children in the 1970s" as opposed to "sci-fi movies and shows released in the 1970s."<br />I was born in 1972 so when I think of my childhood sci-fi experience, it definitely extends into the early 80s with stuff like "V" and "Tron." It also includes the 1960s stuff that was shown in syndication on Saturdays like "Star Trek" and "Thunderbirds" which, at the time, we didn't think of as being "old shows."<br />I say anything that someone in their 40s now (+/-) enjoyed prior to puberty, qualfies as "Space:1970s" era regardless of it's actual release date. Just my opinion. :-)Scottnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-20747979413184716392013-02-13T11:13:48.869-05:002013-02-13T11:13:48.869-05:00I would rather vote NO. Singer and miniatures are ...I would rather vote NO. Singer and miniatures are pretty 70's, but Ironside, shoulder pads and hairstyle are waaaaay too much 80's. Moreover, the memorabilia was produced well into the 80's and the aspecto will crash with that of the 70's.<br /><br />Having said that, I adore the first miniserie, as it blowed my mind with its surprises and cliffhangers. So, if finally the decision is to include V in your blog (anyway it is yours, as we all say), I would suggest to restrict it to the first one, so keeping the backcomb activity to a minimum :)Radarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-17091139799667258152013-02-13T10:58:26.891-05:002013-02-13T10:58:26.891-05:00Good point.Good point.Radarnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-9063629206188197102013-02-13T04:04:39.511-05:002013-02-13T04:04:39.511-05:00Yeah, go for it. Cover "V".
The first V...Yeah, go for it. Cover "V".<br /><br />The first V miniseries was awesome. When Johnson wasn't involved with the second mini, it kind of went downhill.<br />I really wanted them to tie up some of the elements introduced in the first mini, such as sending a message to space to the enemies of the Visitors.<br /><br />Johnson's own "V" continuation book from a few years ago is worth reading. Alexnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-80645574267802669682013-02-13T02:37:58.106-05:002013-02-13T02:37:58.106-05:00I've got to vote "YES" too. I'v...I've got to vote "YES" too. I've always loved V (in all its incarnations) since the two mini-series hit the UK in the summer of 1984, stripped across one week as counter-programming against the summer Olympics. I've covered the show a few times in my blog already.<br /><br />To my mind, if you cover the original mini-series (which stands-up remarkably well today and the DVD is a must-buy for Ken Johnson's detailed and considered commentary), you also need to cover the sequels because - like it or not - they do form one narrative. Even if the series is the absolute definition of a campy, cash-strapped, guilty pleasure. <br /><br />The spin-off novels and DC comics are - for the most part - pretty good too, frequently surpassing the weekly series.<br /><br />The recent ABC revival was such a missed opportunity. After two (truncated) seasons, I still had no clue what the Visitors were up to (but it did - at one point - involve bundling people into the back of a white van. One-at-a-time).<br /><br />I had the pleasure of meeting Jane Badler in London last year. She was every bit as lovely as you'd expect. SLOW ROBOThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15891511135128944714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-62537226597572425412013-02-12T23:14:01.137-05:002013-02-12T23:14:01.137-05:00I say right on with V. I think it's also a go...I say right on with V. I think it's also a good ending point, because really once you get past V, you're into the mid-80's and that's when Sci-Fi really started to turn the corner towards respectability and less cheese. Also, I was a teenager when V was on, and I dug it big time. The new one, not so much.<br /><br />William Noetlinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18034490187710188330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-50548421173233775882013-02-12T22:32:13.587-05:002013-02-12T22:32:13.587-05:00Chris- I think you have your answer.
Most of us wh...Chris- I think you have your answer.<br />Most of us who enjoy your blog share a lot of the same feelings for this eras genre. Consequently we pretty well trust your judgement on what is and is not Space:1970 material.<br />I think this one is a bit of a transition. With the blatant social commentary and somewhat cheesy special effects it has that 70's feel but it also has elements that place it among the 80's genre. would be seen in 80's genre. I loved the scene where the visitors have set up ambushes and traps at all the Air Force bases only to be done in with hot air gallons. And has there ever been such an evil revenge minded good guy as Michael Ironside?<br />And -anyone who disagrees- Michael Ironside has a vial of red dust with their name on it.Dave Mnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-3602869073083913872013-02-12T21:47:08.154-05:002013-02-12T21:47:08.154-05:00Decades don't really break so cleanly in terms...Decades don't really break so cleanly in terms of culture. <br /><br />Like the early 70s were skill close to the late 60s in feel, and so the 70s feel stayed until as someone mentioned, '86 or so.<br /><br />I mean, at least to me, a lot of the early 80s new wave was just an extension of disco. Laura Branigan is a good example - her song Gloria essentially was disco (a cover of an Italian disco song from a few years earlier), then her next song was new wave, Self Control and not all that different. Jeremyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06440605975564288373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-35366753406782491132013-02-12T21:26:59.742-05:002013-02-12T21:26:59.742-05:00If the question were put to a vote, I'd say a ...If the question were put to a vote, I'd say a definite yes for covering the first miniseries, and a qualified yes for covering 1984's "The Final Battle", but I'd lean towards no for the series itself except in context with the original miniseries.<br /><br />But again, it's your blog and you should be able to cover what you want to cover and deviate from your self-imposed rules and mission statement whenever and however you see fit to do so. We're here because we like reading about what you cover and your insights into these subjects and I'm sure that we recognize that those insights are not necessarily limited by strict chronological boundaries. <br /><br />Still, do whatever you're most comfortable with. We'll undoubtedly be okay with it no matter what you decide.<br /><br />Donald Gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-11223613069477006062013-02-12T20:39:45.007-05:002013-02-12T20:39:45.007-05:00Which raises an interesting question---is the crit...Which raises an interesting question---is the criteria for inclusion in "Space:1970" JUST about chronology, or could it also be about an asthetic, a flavor... a VIBE? What about more recent movies that deliberately evoke the era... I'm thinking of films like Super 8, Beyond the Black Rainbow, CQ.... Brother Billhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13176233134588988372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-17966084424506008862013-02-12T18:50:06.547-05:002013-02-12T18:50:06.547-05:00It fits thematically, so I'd say go ahead and ...It fits thematically, so I'd say go ahead and cover it here. You do a great job covering these shows comprehensively, and it would be cool to see "V" get that kind of attention. As others have said, it is part of that post-Star Wars sci-fi boom, just like Buck Rogers, etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-59161074842683596962013-02-12T17:40:03.240-05:002013-02-12T17:40:03.240-05:00I think you should expand the boundaries to includ...I think you should expand the boundaries to include the 80's too, there were so many great shows we all remember from both decades! Unless you wanna start another site: Space1980..Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-65233195525369702622013-02-12T17:30:20.699-05:002013-02-12T17:30:20.699-05:00Abso-frigging-lutely include the first two mini-se...Abso-frigging-lutely include the first two mini-series. The television series is iffy, not only because then you're truly into the 80's in a cultural sense (because culture doesn't always change according to the calendar; in the way that "The Sixties" that everyone remembers didn't really start until around 1963-4).<br /><br />Of course, as everyone else has mentioned, it's your blog. Blog what you want to blog about, and a pox on people who complain about the free content you're giving them. :-)Greyhawk Grognardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13929743865700766901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-71768398915134845402013-02-12T17:27:21.914-05:002013-02-12T17:27:21.914-05:00OF COURSE you should include 'V.' Marc Si...OF COURSE you should include 'V.' Marc Singer had a butt-cut and hair that rolled halfway down over his ears. That's a Seventies thing. <br /><br />If you ask me, the Eighties didn't take hold definitively 'til 1986, when 'Top Gun' put both butt-cuts and fantasy space adventures out to pasture.<br />Rockie Beehttp://hiveofjive.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-76779177080461726882013-02-12T17:25:48.337-05:002013-02-12T17:25:48.337-05:00It's one of those "shoulda/coulda" b...It's one of those "shoulda/coulda" been from the 70's shows, along with Greatest American Hero..... no problemo AT ALL including shows like this!dusty abellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15513635062974516592noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-16890640655649770002013-02-12T16:58:16.175-05:002013-02-12T16:58:16.175-05:00By all means include it. I think it fits well. I...By all means include it. I think it fits well. I would be interested in hearing your thoughts on the show.Charlie Warrenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07899037807693796298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-50565117458032239852013-02-12T16:27:57.233-05:002013-02-12T16:27:57.233-05:00I think for your own safety you'd better inclu...I think for your own safety you'd better include V, because if you don't Michael Ironside might get angry...<br /><br />Seriously, V is a cool show, I'd love to see it included here. The TV series may have continued beyond the '83 restriction, but it all started before then and continued without any real pause. That seems a reasonable enough justification to allow it.Malleusteinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06135524200239163987noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-59682458083947725402013-02-12T16:04:02.093-05:002013-02-12T16:04:02.093-05:00Please please please include it. One of my favorit...Please please please include it. One of my favorites when I was younger. <br /><br />In fact, I think you should include much more from that era -- to quote a famous movie pirate, the title Space:1970 should be "... more what you'd call guidelines than actual rules..." :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-50928525446389803962013-02-12T15:27:54.224-05:002013-02-12T15:27:54.224-05:00Yes, YES, YES. The best aspects of the show were ...Yes, YES, YES. The best aspects of the show were Singer and Ironside, just AWESOME acting. I liked the series more than the original pilot, had some great touches with the Howard K. Smith intro news blurbs. <br /><br />Yeah, it dipped into the 'Dynasty' realm with the alien catfights near the end, but it took itself seriously enough to still enjoy.<br /><br />david_bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00218727673816200051noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-13737762936440055492013-02-12T15:24:56.060-05:002013-02-12T15:24:56.060-05:00V was never a personal favourite but it's cert...V was never a personal favourite but it's certainly worthy of inclusion here.<br />I think 1983 is about the time I started to lose interest in genre stuff. I discovered girls and football around that time - plus, 1983 featured the two big summertime disappointments, 'Return of the Jedi' and 'Superman 3'.<br />Agree about Kenneth Johnson though. His stuff stands up better than a lot of the other TV from the era. As much as I love Glen Larson, his stuff can be pretty damn formulaicAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com