tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post4860349525364325945..comments2024-03-28T03:19:12.867-04:00Comments on space1970: RISE OF THE PLANET OF THE APES (2011)Christopher Millshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15978811373546110421noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-60420663974769921112011-04-12T13:28:31.659-04:002011-04-12T13:28:31.659-04:00Luis - I didn't mean to suggest that the logo ...Luis - I didn't mean to suggest that the logo was any indication of the film's quality. In fact, I think I was properly cynical about such throughout my post. My interest only was in that it was the first time I'd seen Fox's publicity actually acknowledge the film as officially being a part of the franchise.Christopher Millshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15978811373546110421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-39890871208874901062011-04-12T13:18:18.666-04:002011-04-12T13:18:18.666-04:00May I remind you that the Burton film ALSO used th...May I remind you that the Burton film ALSO used the classic typeface for its logo, so that's no indication of a good movie.Luishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07631388281199815121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-47647394858785416172011-04-12T10:46:41.584-04:002011-04-12T10:46:41.584-04:00Andy Serkis' involvement gives me some hope th...Andy Serkis' involvement gives me some hope that the apes will be properly animated. James Franco makes me skeptical, but I have seen him act well (just not recently with all of the stoner movies). I just hope that this one is as dark as "Conquest" tried to be (before the re-worked ending). It's one of my favorite series, despite the dwindling budgets that they suffered with each movie.<br /><br />And while Burton's flick had good effects and costuming, it was mostly abysmal.Stevehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04157952529413529997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-18545135996630848072011-04-12T09:19:21.665-04:002011-04-12T09:19:21.665-04:00Have you seen this yet?
http://www.youtube.com/wa...Have you seen this yet?<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQVqD9st7TA<br /><br />I don't know if it is a clip, or just a WETA proof-of-concept.Paul R. McNameehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13498380385001618758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-82066327616578473742011-04-12T07:19:09.051-04:002011-04-12T07:19:09.051-04:00The Apes films were so much a product of their tim...The Apes films were so much a product of their time. I seriously don't think you can remake them today and not lose a large part of what made them so cool the first time around.<br /><br />Remember they were made when there was the threat of global nuclear war, space travel hadn't yet ended up being all too hard and the BIG ideas in 70s films didn't have to suspend disbelief the way audiences demand these days.<br /><br /> I HATED the Burton film as well...It was just wrong on so many levels. Actually Chris, I hated Rick Baker's makeup (especially his Zira), not because it wasn't done very well, but because it really missed the point of the original Ape movies. They were 'evolved', civilized simians who kind of became a sort of species all on their own. That's what makes that original franchise charming and, well, original.<br />I actually would prefer they go back and maybe 'special edition' the originals. Shock, horror!! Seriously, with modern FX you could do so much to 'open up' those films with set extensions, crowd scenes etc. <br /><br />That was always intended in the story lines of these movies, but the minuscule budgets and technical difficulties made it impossible to achieve at the time.<br /><br />Still, morbid curiosity will probably get me out to see this new one the same way as the last remake did.Pete Mullinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16062050531509971859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-22891756609742885052011-04-12T00:43:18.682-04:002011-04-12T00:43:18.682-04:00Well, we disagree on the quality of the later film...Well, we disagree on the quality of the later films, Kal. As for re-making "bad" movies, there's no commercial logic in it.<br /><br />The thinking behind greenlighting remakes (and movies based on comics, video games and action figures, etc.) is that if they bomb at the box office, no one at the studio has to take the blame. They can just say, "Well, it worked once, so it should have worked again."<br /><br />Creatively, if you're not going to be original, it makes a lot more sense to take films that had good ideas but were not particularly well-executed, and remake those. Which, some may argue (not me) is what they're doing here. Remaking a genuinely <b>bad</b> film makes no sense at all, because there's clearly no audience for it at all.<br /><br />Personally, I don't <b>automatically</b> dismiss remakes, especially if the people involved are talented filmmakers in their own right, and demonstrate respect for the integrity of the original material. In fact, I like a number of remakes, and, as I like to remind film snobs, the good version of <i>The Maltese Falcon</i> was the <i>third</i> one.<br /><br />All that said, <i>most</i> modern remakes suck, and I don't have especially high hopes for this one....Christopher Millshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15978811373546110421noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-1330487837414923422011-04-11T23:41:07.987-04:002011-04-11T23:41:07.987-04:00Why try to re-capture something that was so cool f...Why try to re-capture something that was so cool for it's time. The APE movies were no great shakes, especially as they went along but the first film is a classic. Entertainment Weekly had a good peice of advice - instead of remaking good movies, remake BAD ones.Kalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00663751053844271849noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-44077216463286137902011-04-11T23:21:54.951-04:002011-04-11T23:21:54.951-04:00Interesting logo, I had not seen it. That's o...Interesting logo, I had not seen it. That's official? Surprising they are remaking Conquest, as you said, yet they are making it look almost like a continuation of the other series.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3893206653438189717.post-34079804957660924992011-04-11T22:19:06.231-04:002011-04-11T22:19:06.231-04:00*shudder* The Burton film was a series of horrors ...*shudder* The Burton film was a series of horrors upon horrors. Now some suits have $150 million to ruin my favorite entry of the "Apes" cycle? This will not stand, sir.pariah.filehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11218877744304221570noreply@blogger.com